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to the j.f.k. thing, a story in the paper today or yesterday, the joe biden forces are coming after hillary clinton hard for the nomination in 2016. my question is can hillary be up ended by joe biden? >> it's very unlikely, but i will say this. it's possible, larry. remember in 2006, 2007, what were we saying? hillary couldn't possibly be beaten. you never know. >> that was the answer i hoped you'd give me. let me ask you, besides joe biden who else in your judgment right now might be out there to challenge hillary who you think is not unbeatable? me, too. she could be beaten. >> well, governor martin o'malley is all but running, the governor of maryland. he clearly wants it more than any of the other candidates beyond hillary and biden. you know, if hillary doesn't run, i don't think it's likely. i think it's very unlikely she wouldn't run. if she doesn't run, kady bar the door you'll see democrats right, left and in the middle running. >> let me ask you this. you do think she is going to run. >> when has a clinton not run when they've had the opportunity to run for a public office? never
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